Hey, Maybe It's the Needle

Rusty Guinn

November 9, 2018·5 comments·Politics

Millions of people watched the same video and saw completely different things. The video was clear. The disagreement wasn't about what happened. It was about what it meant, and those meanings split perfectly along tribal lines. The response to this absurdity wasn't to pause and ask what's broken. It was to add more analysis.

• The paradox is in plain sight. A digital recording captures objective reality, yet a hundred million people extract opposite conclusions from it. This shouldn't require debate. That it does suggests the problem isn't the facts.

• The reaction to the paradox makes it worse. Instead of stepping back, people demanded forensic analysis, compression studies, frame-by-frame breakdowns. Each new layer of expertise only deepened the split, not resolved it.

• Being right stopped mattering. Models and analyses can be perfectly accurate and still irrelevant if they don't change minds or outcomes. Yet we keep building more sophisticated ones, hoping the next argument will finally persuade someone.

• Everyone knows it won't work and does it anyway. People prepare for Thanksgiving debates knowing they'll change no minds, make everyone miserable, and leave everyone more convinced of their original views. They do it anyway because feeling right matters more than getting outcomes.

• The system rewards the wrong optimization. As long as your tribe feels validated and the other side feels defeated, the mechanism works. But society's actual problems remain unsolved, and the gap between what we're trying to do and what we're actually accomplishing keeps widening.

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Mkahn22's avatar
Mkahn22over 7 years ago

I am fully confident that I am no better than anyone else, but as the political gyre has widened, my response - my first inclination and, now, my thought out one - has been to withdraw from the discussion. I am still actively engaged in following the issues and forming (what I hope are) my own thoughtful, rational opinions based on - what you importantly note are still things - “truth and reality.”

For example, when, months ago, waiting at a blocked-to-pedestrian-traffic street corner in Manhattan for a Trump motorcade to pass and listening to a very elegantly dressed, middle aged woman, incredibly, scream (with rage in her face) at random police cars and black SUVs “we hate Trump!” all I wanted to do was withdraw (from the human race at that moment).

As to Thanksgiving, by now, I have perfected my conversation-avoidance techniques which will be employed all day to not engage in political conversation. A day I used to love is now one I just want to be over - I’ve even thought about being fake sick to avoid it all together.

My question to you, Ben, and other ET pack members - while this ET brief implies we are all fighting harder, arguing more - and it certainly feels that way to me - are there other ET members who feel like I do? Are there others who just want “out” of the discussion, who know that they aren’t going to change anyone’s mind and, even if they miraculously did, there’s 150 million more minds that won’t be changed? I’ll happily have a spirited and rational conversation with anyone who disagrees with me, but I’m done talking (metaphorically) to people who scream at motorcades and that is what most of the conversations are like today.


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mandrewsover 7 years ago

Mark,

Evasion is my first inclination as well—particularly when it means I am able to fully digest my turkey. However, more recently when I do engage I’ve focused on uncovering that abstraction cloud Rusty talks about. Saying Yes AND in order to dismiss the googolphonic speaker and try to talk about the needle.

For example:

Uncle Jim: “Can you believe Acosta hit that staffer? He deserves to have his credentials revoked.”

Me: “It certainly looked like that in some of the videos I saw. I’m more disheartened in general at how combative the relationship has become between media outlets and the President. It distracts from engaging with policy issues and damages trust in what should be a source of facts. What’s presented as ‘news’ should really be filed under opinion piece—and that goes for Fox and the NYT!”

This is a pretty silly example, and it’s probably not Phase 2 in solving society’s problems, but even Uncle Jim can agree with the growing need for a critical eye to sniff out fiat news. Most conversations devolve from there anyway, but some get through—sometimes the centre holds.


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Victor_Kover 7 years ago

I, for one, am still trying to figure out what’s true, and so I am happy to learn that my mixed reactions to the accosted video could be secondary. Meanwhile, as far as your paragraph 4 lament, I found Jordan Peterson’s ‘12 Rules’ an antidote, not to chaos, but to my own negativity. (Grandchildren work, too!)


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mwgjerdeover 7 years ago

I just find it ironic that without vinyl records becoming hip again, entire generations would have had no idea what you meant by “it’s the needle!”


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rguinnover 7 years ago

Hah! But somehow we’ll be left with the term “rewind” from inferior cassette technology forever, even if the collective understanding of its origin is lost to history.

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