Music through Loss. Writing Through Failure

Writers Jim Ruland and Seth Lorinczi meet for the first time to explore how punk rock, outsider culture, and underground communities shaped their lives, creative work, and approach to parenting. They trace their paths through the DC and Los Angeles punk scenes, the writers and mentors who sent them into the world, and the challenge of preserving subculture in the algorithm age. Along the way, they discuss Henry Rollins, Hunter S. Thompson, Devo, DC Space, punk zines, Gen X parenting, and the accidental discoveries that can change a life.